Re: filmscanners: SS4000 and LS-2000 real value?

["Robert Kehl" <bobkehl@kvernkehl.com>]

IMO we need to take ALL claims in sales literature with at least a couple of
pounds (or kilos) of salt, not just a grain or two.  Yes, the qualifiers
such as "behind glass" and of course the kind of temperature and humidity
that is only found in Paradise are NOT real world parameters.  It's much
like how that  computer you're typing on was rated in its sales literature.
The manufacturers obviously put the best sounding specifications forward.

But it's not really a question of whether your prints will last 20 years or
100 years as the manufacturer claims, (soon it will be 1000 years -
millennial prints??)   But the real question is which printer and ink/paper
combo will give you the longest life in the real world.  If (this month)
that's not Epson, who is it?

Bob Kehl



----- Original Message -----
From: Laurie Solomon <laurie@advancenet.net>
To: <filmscanners@halftone.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: SS4000 and LS-2000 real value?


"Lightfastness' maybe; but what about "gasfastness" or "ozonefastness?"
Afterall, it was not the lack of lightfastness that caused the orange fade
in the 1270 case and usually within a period of time much much shorter than
the 10 year lightfastness claim for the Premium Glossy paper.  I really
think that we all need to take such longevity and archivalness claims with a
grain or two of salt.  Yes, adding the provision of "when kept behind glass"
is  or maybe the qualifier than makes the claim standup; but how many people
keep many, if not most - not even saying all, their prints behind glass or
stored in individual Mylar enclosures.  Moreover, is the 20 year claim for
glossy or matte papers?  Typically the claims of 20-25 years lightfastness
have been for Epson Heavyweight Matte Paper and not for glossy papers such
as EPP, which have, at best, a lightfastness claim of only 2-5 years ( often
even if under glass in the case of the EPP paper this is extended to 5-10
years).

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-filmscanners@halftone.co.uk
[mailto:owner-filmscanners@halftone.co.uk]On Behalf Of Robert Kehl
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 9:35 AM
To: filmscanners@halftone.co.uk
Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000 and LS-2000 real value?



----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Sleep <TonySleep@halftone.co.uk>
To: <filmscanners@halftone.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000 and LS-2000 real value?


On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:01:40 -0600  Robert Kehl (bobkehl@kvernkehl.com)
wrote:

>>  However, when
>> something better comes along my 2000P will be up for sale. I'll let you
know
>> in a hundred years how the prints are holding up.

>Perhaps you shouldn't have tempted fate. New Epson : Stylus Pro 5500,
2880dpi, 3pl,
>Epson claim '20yrs light fast when mounted behind glass'. £2,495GBP tho'.



I believe the 5500 claims 200yrs light fastness.
But how 'bout the new 1290, 2880dpi, 4pl with 20yrs lightfastness!

BK