Re: filmscanners: real value?

["Michael Moore" <miguelmas@uswest.net>]

Ian,
I totally agree. HP has fallen victim to the same short term marketing mentality
that infects too many of today's manufacturers and service providers. That said,
I do think that their printers at least are much better made than Epson's...
What I would really like to see is the old HP mentality applied to their
printers, etc., so that we would have truly professional equipment, both in
manufacture and design... I will also reply to Art's comment about the price
comparison between HP and Epson... wheteher it's the 740, the 870, or the 2000,
they all have the print head as part of the printer, so if the darned thing
clogs beyond repair, you're scr.... (my spell-checker just kicked in).
As for HP, ain't nobody that I know making third party archival pigment/inks for
the darn thing.... Just give me a Fuji Frontier...

Mike Moore

Ian Jackson wrote:

> Michael Moore wrote.....
>
> Michael,
>
> I respect your comment about HP assuming you meant the same oscilloscopes,
> power supplies etc,   that I also used.  However HP's Computers,  printers,
> software and service FOR THOSE PRODUCTS,  are just not in the same league.
>
> Somehow I feel you would not disagree?
>
> Ian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Entlich" <artistic@ampsc.com>
> To: <filmscanners@halftone.co.uk>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:39 PM
> Subject: Re: filmscanners: real value?
>
> >
> >
> > Michael Moore wrote:
> >
> > > I cut my electronics teeth on HP when I trained as an electronics tech
> in Th
> > > US Navy... Their stuff was always built to last... Last summer I bought
> an HP
> > > 932C... it's built much better than my Epson 740... plus the cartridges
> come
> > > with the nozzles built in so if a print head clogs, you just replace the
> > > cartridge... I bought it to replace an Epson that had a clogged print
> > > head...(third party inks!)... I thinks it's a load of bull that things
> can't
> > > be made to last...
> > >
> > > Mike M
> > >
> >
> > Didn't the 932C cost a good deal more than the 740 (I'm not on top of
> > the prices on these)?  And yes, most anything can be made to last, it
> > costs more R&D and usually more in material and manufacturing expense to
> > do so.  That's not my point.  Making a car last (say a Ford Model T)
> > that can't go above 30 miles an hour, other than as a collectable,
> > doesn't make good sense in a world that demands cars that can go 80 mph
> > for practical considerations. The same is true (and more so) of high
> > tech.  If you owned a 10 megabyte harddrive and it was built to last for
> > 50 years, would you still be using it today? Not likely.  The darn thing
> > has more value in aluminum and gold than in either practical use or
> > resale value.
> >
> > BTW, I have a perfectly good 10 meg hard drive I'll sell you (weighs
> > about 15 pounds -- you pay postage, too)  And if you'd like that one,
> > you'll really appreciate my dual drive Bernoulli with disks (which are
> > 12" wide and hold 5 or 10 megs each... it weights about 50 pounds.) and
> > is bigger than a tower computer ;-)
> >
> > Art
> >
> >