Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000 ED or Polaroid Sprintscan 120 ??

["Robert Kehl" <bobkehl@kvernkehl.com>]

Jack & Michael,

Actually Dolby manufactures patented electronics for both the encoding and
decoding of audio. That is, in order to use a Dolby process (Noise
Reduction, Surround Sound Imaging, etc) the audio source must be encoded
using a Dolby process *and* the playback device must decode using a Dolby
decoding process.

ASF is not like Dolby.  ASF (as I understand it) is a one ended technology.
There is no ASF software for my camera.  My film is not encoded with an ASF
process.  The ASF software works at the scanning end of the process.

All else aside,  Dolby *does* make both encoders and decoders available as
stand alone products on a professional level.  ASF could do the same, but I
guess that that might infringe upon their relationships with the scanner
manufacturers.  Who can fault them?  They are in business to make money?
Aren't we all?

My US $0.02  and then some.

Bob Kehl



----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Moore <miguelmas@qwest.net>
To: <filmscanners@halftone.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000 ED or Polaroid Sprintscan 120 ??


> Jack... I thought Dolby was patented circuitry, ie: hardware... You guys
sell
> software.. I think you are missing a big bet (and it has been commented
upon
> previously in this forum) by not making your goodies available to those of
us
> who are serious about filmscanning... I would hold up our esteemed guru,
Ed
> Hamrick, as one who is working fervently to fill the niche you and the
scanner
> manufacturers are leaving wide open... I can buy SilverFast bundled with
or buy
> it separately, why not GEM and ROC, especially if my scanner already
supports
> ICE? I haven't yet tried to contact Minolta support (my Elite works
beautifully)
> but if they are anything like most customer support, it means hours on
Ignore
> and generic answers from support droids, unless I want to scream and
finagle to
> get ahold of someone who really knows something. I am serious about this..
I am
> not a hobbyist.. I am a pro.. I shoot film, I scan it and manipulate it
and burn
> it on a CD to deliver to my client... there are a lot more like myself...
we
> have a certain amount invested in a pro-sumer scanner and may not be ready
to
> jump at the latest and greatest and untried offerings from Nikon, etc.
>
> Anyway, that's my two cent's worth...
>
> Mike Moore
>
>
> Jack Phipps wrote:
>
> > Think of our software like Dolby(tm) for stereo equipment. You can't buy
> > Dolby(tm) for your stereo, you have to buy a stereo with Dolby(tm).
> >
> > The software is custom designed for each scanner model and we have
worked
> > with scanner manufacturers to deliver the software to end users. I
encourage
> > you to contact your scanner manufacter. They may be able to provide our
> > products to you.
> >
> > Jack Phipps
> > Applied Science Fiction
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Moore [mailto:miguelmas@qwest.net]
> >
> > So when will you guys make your super software available to the end
users? I
> > have a Minolta Elite with DIce... Love it, but would also like to have
the
> > other
> > goodies...
> >
> > Mike Moore
> >
> > Jack Phipps wrote:
> >
> > > I wouldn't consider a scanner that didn't have Digital ICE. Not only
that,
> > > but the Nikon scanner has Digital ROC (Reconstruction of Color) that
does
> > an
> > > incredible job of restoring color to faded images. It even works on
> > certain
> > > new over/under exposed images as well. It also includes Digital GEM
(Grain
> > > Equalization & Management). This reduces the grain when you have to
> > enlarge
> > > images and grain becomes apparent. This is one of the first scanners
that
> > > bundles all three of these important features into one scanner. You
can
> > find
> > > more information on these features at:
> > > www.asf.com
> > >
> > > In my biased opinion, the Nikon is the clear choice between these two
> > > scanners.
> > >
> > > Jack Phipps
> > > Applied Science Fiction
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Freedman [mailto:dpfreedman@worldnet.att.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 4:43 PM
> > > To: filmscanners@halftone.co.uk
> > > Subject: filmscanners: Nikon 8000 ED or Polaroid Sprintscan 120 ??
>