I've been looking forward to getting PS E for awhile
now. I think I'll be buying the Epson 2500 dpi scanner
coming out in October, so I'll wait, since it is
bundled. As for using other software, I have Corel
Photopaint 8, which I find is easier for cloning than
PS. Keep in mind, I am an absolute beginner with photo
editing. I just find it easier to use a few differnt
apps for what I find easier in each. Until recently, I
was using the dinky little MS Photo Editor that came
with Office for when I wanted to crop! In short, I
want to use PS E for the same reasons, but have the
same reservations as you outline. I just don't forsee
switching to only one app any time soon.
Pat
--- Peter Klein <pklein@2alpha.net> wrote:
> Alan: Thank you! The Adobe forums cleared up the
> mystery. Indeed, PS 5
> LE is set to a display gamma of 1.8, which can't be
> changed. Now Photoshop
> Elements does have the color management and gamma
> correction stuff. What
> PS Elements doesn't have, according to the specs and
> user comments I read,
> is a curve tool, and the ability to adjust levels in
> 16-bit mode. These
> are serious deficiencies, and the addition of lots
> of hand-holding features
> don't make up for it.
>
> The curve tool is partially replaced by some
> "user-friendly" things called
> "backlighting" and "fill flash," among others. But
> the loss of 16-bit data
> means you're in serious trouble unless you get it
> exactly right in the
> initial scan, because you'll be forced to fix things
> in 8-bit mode, with
> the risk of posterization that entails. NikonScan
> does have a curve tool,
> but I much prefer VueScan, which doesn't.
>
> All this means that basically Adobe has made sure
> that a serious
> photographer who uses Windows will have to buy the
> full $600 Photoshop, or
> make the choice between:
>
> - Editing things that don't look right on the screen
> so they'll look right
> on the Web (LE)
> - Give up the curve tool and 16-bit functionality
> (Elements).
>
> Or use a non-Adobe product. It's tempting. Anybody
> out there use other
> programs. Paint Shop Pro looks good, but doesn't
> handle 16-bit data. What
> about Ulead PhotoImpact, Corel Photo-Paint,
> Micrographix Picture Publisher,
> etc. ?
>
> --Peter Klein
> Seattle, WA
>
> I wrote:
> ><snip>
> > > I think PS 5 LE is using either a default gamma,
> or a default color
> > > space that you can't change. Or both.
> Regardless, PS 5 LE is
> > > operating in a different universe than
> everything else on my system,
> > which is
> >just
> > > sending RGB pixels to the monitor unadulterated.
> And unlike the full
> > > version, there are no obvious adjustments to
> make everything the same.
> > > There's no Adobe Gamma, and no File, Colors
> menu.
> ><snip>
>
> At 09:41 PM 08/20/2001 +0100, "Alan Rew"
> <arew@patrol.i-way.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >I recall a comment on another mailing list that
> Adobe PS5LE has a
> >working space with a gamma of 1.8, which you can't
> change. My limited
> >understanding is then as follows: as PS LE doesn't
> display using monitor
> >compensation (unlike full PS), the resulting gamma
> isn't what you'd
> >expect on a PC (2.2). Hence the need for the
> correction factor of 1.22
> >(=2.2/1.8).
> >
> >Nowadays there is a cheaper alternative than buying
> the full version of
> >PhotoShop - namely the relatively new product Adobe
> PhotoShop Elements.
> >This includes colour management features and so
> should enable you do get
> >a lot further than PS LE (or any of it's price
> competitors) without
> >spending a lot of money. I believe it comes with
> Adobe Gamma tool which
> >enables some manual adjustment of your monitor.
> >
> >For questions about the colour capabilities of
> PhotoShop programs, try
> >the Adobe Colour Management forum,
> >accessible from
> >
> >and look for the heading 'color management'.
> There's a simple
> >registration procedure.
>
>
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