[filmscanners] Re: GRAIN/ICE SHOWDOWN: Nikon LS8000 vs.Minolta ScanMulti Pro!

["Simon Lamb" <simon@sclamb.com>]

I too prefer the post ICE Minolta images.  The Minolta seems to be picking
up more information from the film as can be seen on the first scans.  There
are imperfections that the Nikon has not picked up that the Minolta clearly
shows.  As Art said, the Minolta is scanning at 4800ppi so it may be worth
doing the comparison at 4000dpi for both scanners.

I does seem as though there is some sharpening happening in the Minolta
scanner even though it is set to off in the options.

I would prefer the Minolta as it seems to be capturing more detail.  I would
rather have more detail and be able to do something about it (such as
defocusing a bit) rather than not have the detail to work with at all.

Simon

On 7/4/02 8:27 am, "Arthur Entlich" <artistic-1@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Very interesting comparisons.
>
> What I find particularly interesting is that the Minolta shows more
> detail (including all the junk (DDSG-dust, dirt, scratches and grain))
> than the Nikon does.
>
> Have you attempted defocusing yet?  The Minolta claims to be about 20%
> higher resolution, 4800 versus 4000 dpi, and the original scan does look
> sharper to me, but at what cost?
>
> Honestly, I prefer the Minolta scan post dICE to the Nikon post dICE,
> and if the grain is still too intense for some would GEM help?
>
>
> My suggestion is try defocusing the Minolta scan and then use dICE and
> see what it looks like, then compare all of them using USM and see which
> gives the best final scan.
>
> Art
>
> david/lisa soderman wrote:
>
>> Howdy there,
>>
>> Here's an URL that might interest some of you:
>>
>> www.dreamscapesphoto.com/files/p23graintest.htm
>>
>> I came across some 6x6 neg scans that I did before I exchanged my Nikon
>> 8000ED
>> unit. I decided to post those scans in contrast to these from the Minolta
>> Scan
>> Multi Pro.
>>
>> Please try not to get hung up about differences in color, contrast,
>> brightness, etc..
>> The main objective of the test was to compare GRAIN and ICE.
>> These tests are far from perfect, but they're close enough to get the point
>> across.
>>
>> 6x6 Kodak Portra 160NC color neg film.  (rated @ 80 ISO)
>>
>> To me, the Minolta scans look extremely grainy for a moderately slow
>> negative film.
>>
>> Is anyone else out there scanning color negs with the Scan Multi Pro?  If
>> so, what kind of results are you getting?  Is this typical?  Am I
>> over-reacting?  Do I have a defective unit?  Am I doing something wrong?
>> Would anyone care to trade a Nikon 8000ED for a Minolta Scan Multi Pro?
>>
>> -david soderman- <><


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