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[filmscanners] RE: Web images copyright



All that you say is very true in terms of the practicalities of
copyright enforcement under any circumstances; and your first paragraphy
sounds reasonble to me as a possible answer to the question about what
is the case with non-signatory countries.

filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk <> wrote:
> I think the answer is if the theft occurs in a non-signatory country,
> good luck.  If it occurs in a country that is a signatory, then you
> have to decide if it is worth pursuing, due to costs and
> international problems in such law suits.
>
> I can tell you that in the very vast majority of cases, pursuing
> copyright infringement is only of real value as a deterrent to others
> who may have heard of your action.  They very rarely are profitable.
> The main pont of a copyright notice is to make people think twice, to
> keep the image "tagged" in terms of ownership so it doesn't end up
> being presumed to be public domain, and to be able to threaten
> someone you find out has infringed on your copyright with action.
>
> When you can state to someone "you are infringing on my copyright and
> you better stop" (and they know you aren't kidding because your name
> is right there in the image) that has more value than saying "hey,
> you know that picture on your website with the horses in the field,
> well, that's mine, and although my name and copyright notice doesn't
> appear on it, well, it is mine, and I have the neg to prove it, so
> stop using it".
>
> Of course, again, the best protection if you are going to post an
> image is to use a visible watermark.  Very few people will bother
> trying to remove an embossed watermark from an image.
>
> And, if you don't think theft is a problem, I can tell you of a
> documented case I am aware of where a profession photographer in
> England had the web version of one of his images published on a front
> section page of a very established London newspaper.  A friend of this
> photographer recognized the image and called him.  The photographer
> contacted his lawyer, and they demanded payment X3, which is the usual
> first approach to this.  He was upset more by the crappy quality of
> the reproduction, since it was taken from his website at about 100
> dpi, and was enlarged even further, than he was by the infringement.
>
> Anyway, in conversations with this stately newspaper, the Art Director
> indicated that the "do this all the time" and if they get caught
> (rarely, it seems) they just pay up, and it still saves them money,
> even at 3X cost.  It saves money not only because many times
> photographers either do not know of the usage or they don't pursue
> the situation, but because the cost of a researcher contacting the
> photographer, writing up a contract, etc, and the time delay
> (newspapers often need an image "yesterday") makes it cheaper to do
> it that way.
>
> So, don't assume it is only school kids doing grade 6th book reports
> who "borrow" images from the web, its not!
>
> Art
>
>
> ADVANCENET.NET wrote:
>
>> While they may very well be a signatory to the Bern Convention, there
>> are a number of countries that are not; and the question asked, as I
>> understand it and do not have an answer to, is would the copyright be
>> protected from infringement on those countries by residents of those
>> countries - especially when the infriniged image may be put on the
>> web from sources in those countries and transmitted around the world
>> electronically.
>>
>> filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk <> wrote:
>>
>>> everything you need to know about copyright registration in the US:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.editorialphoto.com/copyright/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>> PS - Israel is a signatory to the Bern Convention
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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