> From: filmscanners_Digest_owner@halftone.co.uk
> Reply-To: filmscanners@halftone.co.uk
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:00:01 -0000
> To: tom@HistoricPhotoArchive.com
> Subject: [filmscanners_Digest] filmscanners Digest for Thu 19 Feb, 2004
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Topic: [filmscanners] ADMIN: List temporary suspension for maintenance
> =================================================================
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 01:33:37 -0800
> From: Arthur Entlich <artistic-1@shaw.ca>
> ----------------------------------------
> Hi Tony,
>
> How nice to know you're still there.
>
> Good luck with the upgrade. They strike fear and terror in my heart,
> personally ;-)
>
> Art
>
> Tony Sleep wrote:
>> Please note that at some time in the next few days, the listserver will be
>> taken offline and be upgraded with new mobo/CPU and OS/software
>> rebuild. It has become very temperamental and unstable lately and is
>> driving me crazy.
>>
>
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-
>
> Topic: [filmscanners] Re: Off Topic: About those USB flashmemorydrives...
> ====================================================================
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:02:29 -0000
> From: "Bob Aldridge" <Bob@ps.com>
> ----------------------------------------
> Basically, Art, for what you want to do, you have to connect a USB
> "client"
> to a USB "host". The "host" then does all the computing to direct the
> traffic.
>
> Unfortunately, both memory device and camera are USB "clients", so
> neither is capable of directing the operations.
>
> For what it's worth, my Toshiba pocket PC only has a client USB port,
> whilst the more expensive ones have USB "hosts"...
>
> Bob Aldridge
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
> [mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk] On Behalf Of Arthur Entlich
> Sent: 17 February 2004 10:29
> To: Bob@ps.com
> Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Off Topic: About those USB
> flashmemorydrives...
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> Thanks again for the explanation.
>
> Since there seems to be not a lot of film scanner traffic I hope no one
> is objecting to our discussion on the list.
>
> This camera is designed to do a few things that may be relevant to this
> discussion. It is designed to work with a docking station (It's a HP
> camera) and also to download directly to a HP printer without use of
> either a computer "middleman" or having to remove the memory card. You
> can even tag the specific images you want to print, and indicate which
> size to print it at, via the camera menus.
>
> There is a section discussing the computer/camera interface. In the
> troubleshooting section it says:
>
> Message on computer: Computer cannot find connected camera
>
> Possible Cause: The camera is set to the Digital Camera setting "USB
> configuration" sub-menu, but the computer cannot recognize the camera
> as a digital camera.
>
> Solution: Change the USB Configuration setting to Disk Drive in the
> Setup menu. This allows the camera to appear as another disk drive on
> the computer so that you can easily copy the image files from the camera
> to the hard drive of your computer.
>
> Now this may just be, as you stated, how the computer recognizes the
> camera, because the manual further states that the Digital Camera option
> causes the computer to use Picture Transfer Protocol, while setting it
> to Disk Drive uses MSDC standard. (which can be used on computers which
> do not have the camera drivers installed).
>
> Anyway, it would be nice if the camera itself had et ability to initiate
> the transfer and allow it to send data to these flash disk drives.
>
> Art
>
>
> Bob Shomler wrote:
>
>>> One think I still don't quite understand. My digital camera, as soon
> as
>>> it is attached to the USB port of my computer and turned on, obviously
>>> communicates with the computer, because the LCD screen of the camera
>>> reads "Communicating with computer" and the computer launches the
>>> downloading software, and the download is both sent to the hard drive
>>> and to a memory resident program, so I can see thumbnails of the
> images
>>> on the computer screen.
>>>
>>> Would there be no way to make the camera request info off the jump
> drive
>>> and then handshake and download the image data to it, or must a CPU be
>>> controlling the communications back and forth?
>>
>>
>> Hello Art. So far as I know there would not be the ability for the
> camera to do what you describe. What you are seeing with the camera is
> that when you plug it into the USB, that action causes the computer/host
> side USB interface to recognize that there is new hardware on that USB
> link. It polls the link, discovers that the new HW is known to the
> system, invokes the device driver identified with that camera (that
> binding established when you installed the camera SW) and this driver
> initiates I/O to the camera to establish communication. It is while
> this activity and related work is going on that the camera puts up the
> "communicating with computer" message. So you need something with host
> SW capability (such as "CPU") to initiate the host-side activity that
> establishes the camera-to-computer connection.
>>
>> Bob Shomler
>>
>>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
> Unsubscribe by mail to listserver@halftone.co.uk, with 'unsubscribe
> filmscanners'
> or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message
> title or body
>
>
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-
>
> Topic: ADMIN: List temporary suspension for maintenance
> ==================================================
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 01:07 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
> From: TonySleep@halftone.co.uk (Tony Sleep)
> ----------------------------------------
> Please note that at some time in the next few days, the listserver will be
> taken offline and be upgraded with new mobo/CPU and OS/software
> rebuild. It has become very temperamental and unstable lately and is
> driving me crazy.
>
> Because I have to fit doing this around work etc, and upgrading another PC
> at the same time (the donor for parts), I can't be sure exactly when this
> will happen or how long it will be offline. It could be 2-3 days.
>
> If you send mail to the list whilst the server is unavailable, don't worry,
> it will be spooled upstream and distributed or actioned as soon as the
> server is back online. Please do NOT resend mail.
>
> My personal email is handled by the same machine, so there's no point
> mailing me either:)
>
> Regards
>
> Tony Sleep -
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-
>
> Topic: Canon 4000US?
> ===============
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 19:42:20 -0600
> From: Jeff Lowenthal <photoman2@mindspring.com>
> ----------------------------------------
> Does anyone have any information about a possible replacement for this
> unit? I ask because suddenly it appears to be available from only a few
> sources, including Adorama and Smile Photo Video, neither of which I
> particularly want to deal with. (Based on many unfavorable consumer reviews.)
>
> Neither B&H nor Calumet or Ritz handle it....
>
> Jeff Lowenthal
>
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-
>
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:57:38 -0800
> From: Ed Lusby <elusby@adelphia.net>
> ----------------------------------------
> I saw one for sale a few days ago at Fry's in San Diego for $899. They
> also have a website-maybe you could get it there.
>
> Ed Lusby
>
>
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-
>
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Unsubscribe by mail to listserver@halftone.co.uk, with 'unsubscribe
filmscanners'
or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or
body
