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[filmscanners] RE: List future



For starters, check out the Yahoo lists; I am sure you will find all kinds
of lists on all kinds of hardware, applications, workflows, and processes.
There are a number of lists on Photoshop CS alone.

-----Original Message-----
From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
[mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk]On Behalf Of Brad Davis
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:20 PM
To: laurie@advancenet.net
Subject: [filmscanners] Re: List future


Tony,

Thanks for your response.  The past day or so has been an education for me.
Initially, my concern was fueled by the fact that I needed some information
(cleaning my Polaroid SS4000) and the concern that it might not have been
available if I waited a little longer- that the list might have gone away.

You've taken care of that concern.

In part, because I much enjoyed reading the list when there was more
activity, I asked if there was a way to get it moving again.  I am convinced
that my suggestion was the wrong direction, that leaving it as it is will
suit all of us just fine.

As to what kind of list I would like in addition - I feel that I am most
behind the curve on various programs for image processing.  I use Photoshop
CS, and while I find it very useful, I keep coming across comments that this
or that software does some things (even many things) better or easier or...?
There is no way that I am going to be able to try even several of the better
programs out there, any more than I am likely to try several different
scanners.  If anyone know of a list that addresses this topic - not an Adobe
list, but one that is outside the vendors, that gets comments that are fully
independent, I would like to go join such.  If it doesn't exist as I have
defined it, then it would be my candidate for a new list.

Thanks again for this list, Tony, and for your clear headed thoughts on the
topic of the future of this list.


--
Brad

" Oh nooo! I never meant to be quoted for something so stupid. I feel like
the president now."  Carolina Robinson



On 9/9/04 16:00, "Tony Sleep" <TonySleep@halftone.co.uk> wrote:

> OK, here's how I see it.
>
> 1. This list, like all lists, has a natural lifespan. A bit like a sun
> past-its-best-by-date, it's now becoming a red dwarf. It'll probably be a
> black hole in 10 years.
>
> 2. It's still useful to have a dedicated reference forum in one place, for
> as long as there are filmscanners around. Even if traffic is negligible,
it
> may be tomorrow that any of us needs the conduit to the expertise of
> others.
>
> 3. It suits me fine that it's quiet, less admin, no bandwidth problems,
> little cost:)
>
> 4. Lists tend to be most useful when precisely focussed and not polluted
> with OT wibble and squabbles about OT wibble. Widening the scope of this
> list would only dilute that utility and risk driving away those who don't
> share precisely the same interests, thereby diluting the usefulness of
this
> list for its primary purpose. If lists aren't useful, people leave.
>
> 5. Yes, it's absolutely true that dig.imaging is like the Chinese proverb:
> you lift one blade of grass and up comes the whole field. And it's huge.
So
> it's a struggle to keep any list within sensible bounds, as what starts
out
> as a question about funny colour can instantaneously explode in 15
> different directions, ranging from film technology to lab standards, to
> scanners, software, technique, monitors and calibration, colour
management,
> and print technologies, inksets, profiling yada yada.... Any one of those
> single topics is a PhD level career for someone, and a busy list.
>
> 6. Given that I don't want to dilute this list, I am prepared to start one
> or more others as well, so the community can potentially remain intact.
> BUT: (a)not everybody who's in filmscanners will want to join a new list
>    (b)there is no point - and mutually destructive - to set up a new list
> that replicates the interest area of another list that already exists.
It's
> far more useful to have know-how concentrated in one place.
>
> 7. So what areas are candidates for a new list(s)? I'm wary of jumping in
> with a reinvention of epson_inkjet because that list required industrial
> scale servers and bandwidth to sustain its traffic levels. It's not
> surprising it died, the economics are ruinous.
>
> Regards
>
> Tony Sleep - http://www.halftone.co.uk
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