[filmscanners] Re: SS 120 questions for current users

["Dave King" <kingphoto@mindspring.com>]

It worked fine with XP on my sonylaptop using the firewire connection.  The
laptop did not work well however editing the subsequent large files in
Photoshop, I assume because of limited RAM.  It kept crashing, so I moved
the SS120 to my PIII win98 box and all was well.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Spirer" <jeff@spirer.com>
To: <kingphoto@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:42 AM
Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SS 120 questions for current users


Does Insight 5.5 work with XP?  The web site doesn't say anything about it
on the download page.

At 05:44 PM 4/11/2002 -0400, Dave King wrote:
>One last BTW, the store's copy of Insight probably isn't 5.5, but it can be
>downloaded from the Polaroid web site.  A weekend tryout would be best if
>you can.
>
>Dave
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Simon Lamb" <simon@sclamb.com>
>To: <kingphoto@mindspring.com>
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:35 PM
>Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SS 120 questions for current users
>
>
>Interesting.  I will try again tomorrow and use their copy of Insight.  I
>also found that when I scanned a Delta 100 6X6 neg. the histogram showed
>everything moved towards the black end.  There was a loss of detail and the
>histogram ended sharply at the black end as it everything had been pushed
>against a wall.
>
>I think I need more practice with the SS120 but it is difficult at the
>dealer.  I think I will ask if I can rent it out for a weekend.
>
>Thanks for your reply.
>
>Simon
>
>On 11/4/02 8:03 pm, "Dave King" <kingphoto@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > My guess is Insight 5.5 would be better based on the result of your
>current
> > test, but my experience with Silverfast is limited to a few quick tests.
>My
> > impression is Silverfast can be quite accurate if you go to the trouble
of
> > making a custom profile for it with an IT-8 target.  But I do find
Insight
> > 5.5 gets the colors of the chrome right on the nose with both the SS4000
>and
> > SS120.  The end points come in on the conservative side, which I prefer,
>and
> > a simple tone curve to set end points and lift gamma a bit gets the scan
> > dialed in from there.  I do the tone correction first, then convert the
>file
> > to 8 bit RGB.  I set Insight up so that "monitor space" and "output
>profile"
> > (or whatever they call it) are Adobe RGB 98 (my working space), and then
>the
> > scan preview matches the Photoshop view very accurately, so basic
prescan
> > color and tone correction in Insight is possible.  For some reason
>however,
> > when a working space is used with Insight the curves feature is turned
>off,
> > so the prescan corrections have to be kept pretty basic, but they would
> > still be useful for production work.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Simon Lamb" <simon@sclamb.com>
> > To: <kingphoto@mindspring.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:24 PM
> > Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SS 120 questions for current users
> >
> >
> > I was using the Photoshop plug of Silverfast Ai 5.  Would Insight be
>better?
> > I could not of course test out Vuescan which I use with my LS30.
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave King" <kingphoto@mindspring.com>
> > To: <simon@sclamb.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:05 PM
> > Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SS 120 questions for current users
> >
> >
> >> The short answer is you will have to some basic tweaking in Photoshop
if
> > you
> >> use Insight 5.5 with the most recent transparency profile.  It comes in
> > with
> >> accurate color, but a little flat.  Many chromes you don't want an
exact
> >> color reproduction anyway, considering film's color distortions of lens
> >> output.  Hey it's film you're looking at, not lens output:)  But in my
> >> experience the colors are true to the chrome at Insight's no adjustment
> >> settings, and I would think you could save a standard tone curve for
> >> production work.
> >>
> >> Color negs are an entirely different story.  Insight hypes colors, and
> >> crossovers abound.  Vuescan is considerably better, but I find I often
> > still
> >> have to work with relatively minor crossovers quite a bit in Photoshop
to
> >> get a great final.  But since it doesn't start out hyped it's at least
> >> possible to get there.  The little bit I've worked with Insight for
negs
> > my
> >> impression was "impossible".  For production work with color negs you'd
>be
> >> better off with Nikonscan or the Imacon software.  (Haven't used the
> > Imacon
> >> software, going by what I've heard.)
> >>
> >> My .02
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Simon Lamb" <simon@sclamb.com>
> >> To: <kingphoto@mindspring.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:11 PM
> >> Subject: [filmscanners] SS 120 questions for current users
> >>
> >>
> >> I just spent three hours with an SS 120 and the Imacon Photo.  The only
> >> major difference that I found was in the colour fidelity when scanning
> >> slides, in this case Kodak E100VS 6X6 slides.  Whereas the Imacon
> >> representation of the slide was spot on in colour reproduction, the SS
>120
> >> was more washed out and the saturation had been lost.
> >>
> >> Other than that it seemed to be an excellent unit, not as good as the
> > Imacon
> >> in the final scans (the Imacon seemed to show more detail and smoother
> >> transitions even though it was working at 3200dpi and not 4000dpi.
> >>
> >> Have any of you current SS 120 users notices colours not being
reproduced
> >> correctly and have you managed to fix this easily using the scanner
> >> software?  Or am I going to need to do a lot of colour manipulation in
> >> Photoshop?
> >>
> >> Sorry to keep asking questions but I want to make sure I spend my money
>on
> >> the right scanner as it is a lot of money.


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