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[filmscanners] RE: What can you advise?



Jim,

Why?  Like I do, he simply checks/cleans his negatives before scanning.  I
thought he was describing my temporary quarters at first and I have a 1/2
mile dirt/gravel driveway...I have the exact same environment, except I
don't have a paper cutting farm in my basement.

One key is either keeping them clean in the first place, and therefore
having to do minor if any, dust removal...or simply doing some level of dust
removal prior to scanning.  Also, as even Arthur has corroborated with me
on, different scanners seem, for what ever reason, to have/not have dust
problems, at least the dust is more/less visible, or physically there/not
there.  I believe this is reasonably universally known.

Austin


> -----Original Message-----
> From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
> [mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk]On Behalf Of JimD
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:40 AM
> To: darkroom@ix.netcom.com
> Subject: [filmscanners] Re: What can you advise?
>
>
> Art,
> Sheesh, I sure hope Austin doesn't read this!
> -JimD
>
> At 07:03 PM 9/26/2002 -0700, Arthur Entlich wrote:
> >You've raised exactly the crux of the issue.  Nikon scanner users have
> >no choice.  They must use dICE when it is available to them.
> >
> >I have an admission to make.  I live is a rural area, where the air is
> >often dusty.  We live on a dirt and gravel road. My digital studio is in
> >a finished basement.  It is carpeted with a medium pile rubber backed
> >glued down carpet.  Because of all the equipment and furniture I have
> >all over the place in my work area, and all the paper everywhere, and
> >because I still have a lot of magnetically sensitive storage media
> >around, I have only, in the last 10 years vacuumed here twice.  It is
> >just too much work to do it.  I run part of my business in the same area
> >where I manufacture paper goods which are cut and laminated by the
> >thousands, and create a lot of particulate matter. The area directly
> >connects to an unfinished basement area where I do shop work, auto
> >repair, do airbrush painting, we store our recyclables, etc. and the
> >rafters are covered in cobwebs.  We have a 35 year old oil heat central
> >hot air furnace, which is NOT clean, and the ducts have been cleaned
> >exactly NEVER since we moved here, over 20 years ago, and were probably
> >never cleaned since the house was built. Most all of the house is
> >carpeted and the house has stupid blown textured ceilings which not only
> >collect dust, but shed this white plaster-mica mix.  We are in an
> >earthquake zone and get hit every few weeks with one which gives the
> >house a good shake.  We have a standard low tech filter in the furnace
> >and a electrostatic cleaner (ozone producing) which we run about once a
> >month for a few hours.  The chimney and firebox have been cleaned once
> >in 20 years. I occasionally "dust" the digital lab area and I run a
> >manual floor sweeper about once a year, if that, on the exposed areas of
> >the carpet. Other than the spiders, we have no pets. If I run my finger
> >down any flat surface I get a fair wad of paper dust and general dust.
> >I do keep my slide and negs in boxes and holders.  I use either a very
> >soft 3/4" wide nylon artist's paintbrush (most of the time) (no radio-
> >isotopes involved) or sometimes I set up an air compressor with a nozzle
> >(only when running a lot of slides through).
> >
> >I print up to 13" wide and sometimes I double that to make proofs with a
> >seam down the middle, so some images get pretty large. Some films are
> >over 20 years old and have been "around", and have some scratches. The
> >SS4000+ scans I do require minimal to no spotting.  Rarely do I have to
> >spend more than 2-3 minutes at most to clone and clean images, and that
> >is mostly when it is a very large print.
> >
> >On the other hand, every scan I do on the Minolta Dual Scan II needs
> >some spotting work regardless how much I clean the film and some
> need a lot.
> >
> >If you have only worked with a Nikon or Minolta scanner, you probably
> >think I am speaking from another dimension when I say even under the
> >conditions I have here I need to do very little spotting on those scans.
> >
> >So, now that I have done a true confession, I hope you can still respect
> >me ;-)
> >
> >Art
> >
> >
> >
> >Paul D. DeRocco wrote:
> >
> > > How does one do this? Seal the room and install an air
> filtration system?
> > > Wear a smock, hairnet and gloves? I store slides in boxes with no gaps
> > > between the slides, yet I still find dust on them. I clean
> them with proper
> > > fluid and pads until I can't see anything under a magnifier, pop them
> > in the
> > > scanner (LS-2000), and find there's still crap all over them
> if I turn off
> > > ICE.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
> > > Paul                mailto:pderocco@ix.netcom.com
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: Austin Franklin
> > >>
> > >>Well, I'd say if you want the best results from any scanner,
> simply keep
> > >>your work environment, film storage, scanner etc. free of
> dust.  For many
> > >>years before "Digital ICE" people made dust free images in both
> > >>the darkroom
> > >>and with scanners.
> > >>
> > >>IMO, "Digital ICE" is no substitute for sloppy work habits and a
> > >>sloppy work environment and bad film storage.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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