[filmscanners] Re: What can you advise?

["JimD" <rasterdogs@attbi.com>]

Austin,
Oh, I got confused. I thought it was going to take something
like, at least, a class 100 clean room to get clean scans.
-Jim


At 12:48 AM 9/27/2002 -0400, Austin Franklin wrote:
>Jim,
>
>Why?  Like I do, he simply checks/cleans his negatives before scanning.  I
>thought he was describing my temporary quarters at first and I have a 1/2
>mile dirt/gravel driveway...I have the exact same environment, except I
>don't have a paper cutting farm in my basement.
>
>One key is either keeping them clean in the first place, and therefore
>having to do minor if any, dust removal...or simply doing some level of dust
>removal prior to scanning.  Also, as even Arthur has corroborated with me
>on, different scanners seem, for what ever reason, to have/not have dust
>problems, at least the dust is more/less visible, or physically there/not
>there.  I believe this is reasonably universally known.
>
>Austin
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
> > [mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk]On Behalf Of JimD
> > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:40 AM
> > To: darkroom@ix.netcom.com
> > Subject: [filmscanners] Re: What can you advise?
> >
> >
> > Art,
> > Sheesh, I sure hope Austin doesn't read this!
> > -JimD
> >
> > At 07:03 PM 9/26/2002 -0700, Arthur Entlich wrote:
> > >You've raised exactly the crux of the issue.  Nikon scanner users have
> > >no choice.  They must use dICE when it is available to them.
> > >
> > >I have an admission to make.  I live is a rural area, where the air is
> > >often dusty.  We live on a dirt and gravel road. My digital studio is in
> > >a finished basement.  It is carpeted with a medium pile rubber backed
> > >glued down carpet.  Because of all the equipment and furniture I have
> > >all over the place in my work area, and all the paper everywhere, and
> > >because I still have a lot of magnetically sensitive storage media
> > >around, I have only, in the last 10 years vacuumed here twice.  It is
> > >just too much work to do it.  I run part of my business in the same area
> > >where I manufacture paper goods which are cut and laminated by the
> > >thousands, and create a lot of particulate matter. The area directly
> > >connects to an unfinished basement area where I do shop work, auto
> > >repair, do airbrush painting, we store our recyclables, etc. and the
> > >rafters are covered in cobwebs.  We have a 35 year old oil heat central
> > >hot air furnace, which is NOT clean, and the ducts have been cleaned
> > >exactly NEVER since we moved here, over 20 years ago, and were probably
> > >never cleaned since the house was built. Most all of the house is
> > >carpeted and the house has stupid blown textured ceilings which not only
> > >collect dust, but shed this white plaster-mica mix.  We are in an
> > >earthquake zone and get hit every few weeks with one which gives the
> > >house a good shake.  We have a standard low tech filter in the furnace
> > >and a electrostatic cleaner (ozone producing) which we run about once a
> > >month for a few hours.  The chimney and firebox have been cleaned once
> > >in 20 years. I occasionally "dust" the digital lab area and I run a
> > >manual floor sweeper about once a year, if that, on the exposed areas of
> > >the carpet. Other than the spiders, we have no pets. If I run my finger
> > >down any flat surface I get a fair wad of paper dust and general dust.
> > >I do keep my slide and negs in boxes and holders.  I use either a very
> > >soft 3/4" wide nylon artist's paintbrush (most of the time) (no radio-
> > >isotopes involved) or sometimes I set up an air compressor with a nozzle
> > >(only when running a lot of slides through).
> > >
> > >I print up to 13" wide and sometimes I double that to make proofs with a
> > >seam down the middle, so some images get pretty large. Some films are
> > >over 20 years old and have been "around", and have some scratches. The
> > >SS4000+ scans I do require minimal to no spotting.  Rarely do I have to
> > >spend more than 2-3 minutes at most to clone and clean images, and that
> > >is mostly when it is a very large print.
> > >
> > >On the other hand, every scan I do on the Minolta Dual Scan II needs
> > >some spotting work regardless how much I clean the film and some
> > need a lot.
> > >
> > >If you have only worked with a Nikon or Minolta scanner, you probably
> > >think I am speaking from another dimension when I say even under the
> > >conditions I have here I need to do very little spotting on those scans.
> > >
> > >So, now that I have done a true confession, I hope you can still respect
> > >me ;-)
> > >
> > >Art
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Paul D. DeRocco wrote:
> > >
> > > > How does one do this? Seal the room and install an air
> > filtration system?
> > > > Wear a smock, hairnet and gloves? I store slides in boxes with no gaps
> > > > between the slides, yet I still find dust on them. I clean
> > them with proper
> > > > fluid and pads until I can't see anything under a magnifier, pop them
> > > in the
> > > > scanner (LS-2000), and find there's still crap all over them
> > if I turn off
> > > > ICE.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
> > > > Paul                mailto:pderocco@ix.netcom.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: Austin Franklin
> > > >>
> > > >>Well, I'd say if you want the best results from any scanner,
> > simply keep
> > > >>your work environment, film storage, scanner etc. free of
> > dust.  For many
> > > >>years before "Digital ICE" people made dust free images in both
> > > >>the darkroom
> > > >>and with scanners.
> > > >>
> > > >>IMO, "Digital ICE" is no substitute for sloppy work habits and a
> > > >>sloppy work environment and bad film storage.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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