[filmscanners] DSLRs, film scans and color (was: is this about as good asitgets?)

["Bob Shomler" <bobf1@shomler.com>]

>I have not used any DSLR. Does DSLRs produce accurate colours?

How does one define "accurate?"  DSLRs can yield good color.  I use both a 
Canon D60 digital camera and film cameras.  I'll frequently perform tonal and 
color editing operations on image files from the D60 -- editing similar to what 
I do with image files from scanned film negatives.  Knowledge of how to work 
with color is useful to me: my results for web images or in prints would be 
poorer without some color understanding and editing skills on my part.

Bob Shomler
www.shomler.com

PS.  For some examples, the images on my Raptors (owls and hawks) web page all 
are from the D60, daylight; images on The Nutcracker (dance photos web pages) 
are a mix of film and D60, indoor theatre-stage lighting.


At 10:15 AM 1/27/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>One problem with scanner, at-least for me, is I had to do a lot of colour 
>correction.
>Since photography is not my profession, I had to read a lot about it.
>Even with all these effort, colour correction takes lot of time and I am not 
>satisfied with my SKILL.
>I think something needs to be done to improve this, may be by providing 
>film/slide profile for
>each film/slide. Except for this I am very happy with Film-Scanner combination 
>and will
>continue for another 2 years.
>
>I have not used any DSLR. Does DSLRs produce accurate colours?
>
>
>Thanks
>Ramesh
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Thomas Maugham [mailto:TMaugham@yahoo.com]
>Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 6:39 PM
>To: Nagaraj, Ramesh
>Subject: [filmscanners] RE: Filmscanners - is this about as good as
>itgets?
>
>
>My 2 cents on this is to agree that we have reached as high as we will with
>scanner hardware. We will, however, see improvement and innovation in the
>scanning software as well as post-scan software such as Genuine Fractals is
>doing. And I also believe that we will see improvement and innovation in the
>printing processes, ink jet, dye transfer and yet-to-be developed printing
>processes.
>
>Tom
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
>[mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk]On Behalf Of Simon Lamb
>Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 6:29 PM
>To: TMaugham@yahoo.com
>Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Filmscanners - is this about as good as
>itgets?
>
>
>On 26/01/03 21:44, "Tim Atherton" <tim@KairosPhoto.com> wrote:
>
>> For a few years, Nikon, Canon, Polaroid, Minolta were all outdoing each
>> other producing better general level filmscanners culminating in, for
>> example, the LS2000 or 4000 for Nikon.
>>
>> My feeling is, that with the huge boom in pro level digital, the need for
>> these kind of scanners has reduced (or at least levelled off), and the
>> scanners themselves seem to have reached a level of performance that is
>> acceptable for most requirements.
>>
>> So, as far as desktop film scanners go, do people think that this is about
>> as good as it gets for now?
>>
>> I can see some moderate improvements being made here and there, and maybe
>a
>> new model or two. But I think that for the foreseeable future, the sort of
>> rapid development and arrival of new models has probably levelled out.
>>
>> What do people think?
>>
>
>Tim
>
>I has this debate a couple of weeks ago and I agree with your views.  I
>think that the equipment is out there now to make superb scans and, with the
>right scan resolution, you can also make very large prints.  A medium format
>negative scanned on an LS8000 will produce huge prints is needed.
>
>I don't think scanner manufacturers will be making any significant
>investment in designing a new generation of scanners as I think that digital
>capture in the camera will negate the need for film and scanners (for those
>that desire or need to negate it), and I believe that all the quality that
>one needs is already out there.   Everything from my LS30 to an Imacon 848
>can be bought, used and provide and increasing level of quality.
>
>Digital cameras may not kill off film in the next 5-10 years, but I bet it
>will kill of scanner development.  What we may see is the rise of the
>flatbed, since this technology is catching up in terms of ppi, dynamic range
>etc., and there are other drivers for producing the technology, not just
>film scanning.  Look at the Epson 3200 or Artixscan 1800f to see some
>seriously good specifications, rivaling some of the current dedicated film
>scanners.
>
>Simon
>
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