[filmscanners] Re: SS4000 & SCSI under Vista

["gary" <lists@lazygranch.com>]

This may be an issue how how Vista is marketed in the UK. In the US,
there is Vista Ultimate, which comes with 64 bit vista. A few version of
32 bit Vista allow the purchase of the 64 bit edition.

In my case, I have X64, which I suppose you could call X64 XP. Microsoft
calls is
Windows XP Professional x64 Edition
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/default.mspx

All this gets more confusing when you consider retail versus OEM
versions. Anyway, X64 is not Vista.




Laurie@advancenet.net wrote:
> Gary,
>
> I have not used Vuescan of recent so I do not know if the current versions
> require or not the factory driver to be installed; I was under the
> impression that Ed did not rely on Twain drivers but developed his own
> proprietary driver as a substitute for the OEM TWAIN drivers.  As for
> Vuescan under X64, I cannot speak to its stability since I have not tried
> recent versions of Vuescan under X64; moreover, I suspect, given what you
> suggest, it might work without crashing if one used SCSI via an adapter card
> in a slot on the motherboard rather than USB (if SCSI cards work in the X64
> Vista OS and if there is ASPI layer available from Adaptec or elsewhere that
> will work with X64).
>
>> In many ways, X64 is a really good operating system. Remember, it is
>> Server 2003 kind of stripped down. But for non-server tasks, it does
>> have it's issues. Also, X64 is a dead end. MS wants you to use Vista,
>> but 64 bit Vista is a mess. As you probably know, there is a rumor that
>> MS is going to replace Vista soon, i.e. it is like Windows ME (the
>> minus
>
> I question these statements.  I do not believe that X64 Vista is a stripped
> down version of Server 2003 (X64 XP might have been but that is a different
> OS than Vista).  Vista X64 does have some problems when used as a server or
> as a non-server; but much of it has to do with the availability of X64
> drivers, with printing in mixed X32 and X64 networks, and with the
> availability of hardware and firmware that can make use of some of the newer
> features.  I do not think that Vista X64 is dead or the rumor that you say
> is going around has any truth in it.  It is true that MS is working on
> developing the next Windows OS which can be regarded as a new version of
> Vista (whether it will be called Vista 2.O or by a new name as happened in
> the case of the move from XP to Vista, I do not know).  I think that people
> may be confusing the switch from using a single name with version numbers
> for a software program to the use of different names for each version
> without using version numbers with replacing or abandoning the program.
> Even Adobe has started renaming its programs from Photoshop or Illustrator
> version x, y, and z to Photoshop or Illustrator CS, CS2, and CS3 without
> employing version numbers.  I do know that MS decided that they would not
> issues a Service Pack for Vista that is like what they did with XP where it
> almost comprised a total revision of the program from start to finish;
> instead, they would only issue service packs that fix bugs or security
> problems, leaving the addition or alteration of features to the next OS.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
>> [mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk] On Behalf Of gary
>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:10 PM
>> To: laurie@advancenet.net
>> Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SS4000 & SCSI under Vista
>>
>> Often Vuescan needs the factory driver to be installed. A few devices
>> Ed
>> can drive directly.
>>
>> BTW, Vuescan under X64 is not all that stable. Expect a crash every
>> other roll. It has to do with how X64 handles USB.
>>
>> In many ways, X64 is a really good operating system. Remember, it is
>> Server 2003 kind of stripped down. But for non-server tasks, it does
>> have it's issues. Also, X64 is a dead end. MS wants you to use Vista,
>> but 64 bit Vista is a mess. As you probably know, there is a rumor that
>> MS is going to replace Vista soon, i.e. it is like Windows ME (the
>> minus
>> edition).
>>
>>
>> Laurie@advancenet.net wrote:
>>> You could try Vuescan; or you could go to the Epson web site and see
>> if the
>>> scanner software is downloadable/
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
>>>> [mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk] On Behalf Of Jim
>> Ketcheson
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:19 PM
>>>> To: laurie@advancenet.net
>>>> Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SS4000 & SCSI under Vista
>>>>
>>>> I have acquired an Epson 1200 Perfection Photo Scanner but did not
>> get
>>>> the software. Would anyone know what was originally with this
>> scanner
>>>> and have any idea where one could find the appropriate software. I
>> also
>>>> have the Epson 3200 Perfection series but the software is not
>>>> interchangeable.
>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> Jim Ketcheson
>>>> Belleville, Canada
>>>>
>>>> James L. Sims wrote:
>>>>> Laurie,
>>>>>
>>>>> My plan is to keep a 32-bit machine around for the SS120 and My old
>>>>> Epson Stylus Photo 1200.  Then upgrade my main computer to XP 64.
>> An
>>>>> Epson tech told me last year that that he could send me the 64-bit
>>>>> drivers for my Epson 1640 scanner, however, I didn't ask him to do
>>>> that
>>>>> and I still do not see a 64-bit driver, twain or otherwise, on
>>>> Epson's
>>>>> website - that seems to support what you're saying about 32-bit
>> Twain
>>>>> drivers working on 64-bit systems.  Epson does have 64-bit drivers
>>>> for
>>>>> my R2400.
>>>>>
>>>>> After I upgrade to a 64-bit OS, I'll try installing the Polaroid
>>>> drivers
>>>>> on the new system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> Laurie@advancenet.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most of the scanners up until currently used TWAIN drivers and
>> there
>>>> were no
>>>>>> universal 64 bit TWAIN standards or specs as was the case for 32
>> bit
>>>> twain
>>>>>> drivers; hence, no 64 bit TWAIN drivers were ever produced at any
>>>> time.  The
>>>>>> net result was that there were no scanners that would work on 64
>> bit
>>>>>> operating systems as 64 bit scanners.  I am not really sure; but I
>>>> think
>>>>>> that the 32 bit TWAIN drivers will work under the 64 bit Windows
>> XP
>>>>>> operating system.  As far as I know, there will be no 64 bit Twain
>>>> drivers
>>>>>> being developed for any of the brands or types of scanners in the
>>>> future.
>>>>>> The newer flatbed scanners have gotten much better in terms of
>> their
>>>> quality
>>>>>> and optical resolutions; but I still think they are lacking if one
>>>> is
>>>>>> scanning small format film with the intent of enlarging the images
>>>> to
>>>>>> anything beyond 8 x 10 without resorting to the use good high
>>>> quality
>>>>>> interpolation methods or of cropping out segments of the image for
>>>>>> enlargement.  Some of these scanners may in the future come out
>> with
>>>> 64 bit
>>>>>> drivers if there is a market for 64 bit; but it will either be in
>>>> the form
>>>>>> of WMA compliant drivers for use with MICROSOFT 64 bit operating
>>>> systems and
>>>>>> not TWAIN drivers (since I do not believe that Apple has a 64 bit
>>>> operating
>>>>>> system or plans to come out with one in the near future - but I
>>>> could be
>>>>>> wrong).  I have the feeling that Microsoft's WMA protocol will
>>>> become the
>>>>>> standard for scanner drivers even if Apple comes out with a 64 bit
>>>> OS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
>>>>>>> [mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk] On Behalf Of James L.
>>>> Sims
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:48 AM
>>>>>>> To: laurie@advancenet.net
>>>>>>> Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SS4000 & SCSI under Vista
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe none of the Polaroid scanners are being supported
>> beyond
>>>>>>> 32-bit Windows XP or the same era Mac OS.  About a year ago I
>>>> contacted
>>>>>>> Polaroid, asking them if they would be providing 64-bit drivers
>> for
>>>> my
>>>>>>> SprintScan 120.  I had recently upgraded to a 64-bit computer.
>>>>>>> Polaroid
>>>>>>> informed me that the SS120 had been out of production for more
>> than
>>>>>>> three years and no driver updates would be forthcoming.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone have any knowledge of the quality of today's flatbed
>>>>>>> scanners?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great to see active dialog on this list!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob Geoghegan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While we're talking about SCSI scanners under current OSs, how
>>>> 'bout
>>>>>>> Vista?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm running an SS4000 on a Win XP laptop through an Adaptec
>> 1480B.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The card
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is supported under Vista, but I don't know what to expect for
>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> scanner.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bob G
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
>>>>>>>> [mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> halftone@troutcom.com
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:14 AM
>>>>>>>> To: bobgeo@dgiinc.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SCSI support on a Mac Pro
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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